I sit down with Marc, AKA Hudgens_GG, we burn the midnight oil (well 7pm HST) discussing his upbringing, his journey in streaming so far, as well as his tremendous work ethic that it takes to be successful as a creator.
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what is happening? Y'all This is Kyle, a k a bona fide gaming host of the bonified experience. Podcasts. You all want to give a huge shout out to everyone. First and foremost, you all have been amazing with supporting the podcast. I genuinely appreciate that from the bottom of my heart, I've really feel like I've come to my own on this platform. Ah, the 1 to 1 environment getting to know people getting to understand their story, getting their insights. And that should just makes me happy. So thank you so much for supporting this dream of mine. I can't thank you enough. Those guys who do follow my twitter. Ah, an instagram recently saw that I have decided to give up Twitch dreaming in pursuit of YouTube as well as podcasting. 100% of my content. This was not an easy decision that was made quickly. This took a lot of time, a lot of thought, a lot of ah consuming other people's content as well. And that kind of helped put me in the right direction. Um, this is really where I thrive. And that being said, you know, we're gonna get to our We're going to get to the main attraction. His name is Hudgens. GG. He is a twitch content creator from Hawaii. And he is in Apex God, soon to be Valerie. And God, actually, take that back. He is a valor and God got his. I was blessed to be in the same lobby when he got his 1st 50 bomb in that game. So just watch out, y'all. This is a This is a great episode. We discuss his upbringing. Ah, what got him into Streaming? What got him into gaming where he's headed. You know, when he gives, lastly, he tipped, you know, runs out with some solid advice to those up incoming content creators and really shows what type of work ethic it takes to be successful. Hope you guys enjoy Hodgins, my man. Welcome aboard. How you doing today? Stop, Boone. I'm chill. It's a pity you did. You know, just ah, making this podcast work with the time zones. You know, um, I'm gonna make it happen, uh, away over there, all the way out there across the ocean. And I'm glad to have you. Yes, sir. They turn me on, bro. Um um, just think about it like before. A lot of this happened, man. Like, you know, me being able to do a podcast where you're at, like, is virtually impossible without flying you out Or like me flying over there with all those equipment. It's, ah, to cool fucking experience, man. For sure did Yeah. All right, here we are, Goldman. So, uh, want you? Ah, give a little introduction to yourself, man. What's your name? Were you from, um, games you play? All right.
Well, as, uh, my name is Mark. Usually you guys know me as Hodgins G. Uh, current game I play is Valerie and I used to play have the apex competitive, and I am a twitch steamer
I'm talking about, man. Where you from?
I am from Hawaii.
A that alone? All right, you cereal. Omaha, back off. So you know this this question I I typically ask, um I'll give you some context, man. I You know, I'm gonna ask you a question. What is it that you want to be when you grow up? Um, and it's Yeah. Ah, I think it's best for me. Like I need to consistently asked myself that to stay young um, as I get older, Like as we as I grow up as I grow old, you know, it's like so I think that it's a great thing to keep us hungry. Um And so at your age, ma'am, what is it that you want to be?
Uh, well, when I was little, like growing up in the family, that more guys there on the automotive side on, typically, like the ladies are pursues. So I did drive through going to college, doing automotive, but I didn't finish. So then I kind of got bored of it, So I did wanna change to the empty. So somewhere along lines between those who
Ottoman today, I mean so fast. Forward to today. What is that you want to be when you grow up?
That's tough. I know. Lately I've been leaning more towards the computer side of things. I'm not sure if I want to do like i t or something. Something like that. Not sure yet. Still. Yeah,
if you Ah yeah. Do, um I'm the same women. I you know, my dad grew up with car like he worked on cars. He fixes things. He's a handyman. Like in going out, man. I'm the exact opposite of that. Like I'm like, one of the most unhand me man you've ever met. Um, you know, it's funny, though. I'm handy. I just What I was handy with didn't come about till the all this technology started coming about. Then I became handy. I'm like, I like this stuff Now. That's cool, man. Um, cool. So, you know, what's the story on your Hodgins? Was the story behind your name
Hodgins? Oh, how so? This one is pretty self explanatory, like, you see here, like Vanessa Hodge and, you know, like when I first started gaming, Um, I've came across this video of finesse Hodgins on dhe ever since that video. I changed my name to Hodgins and just stuck to me. I never, ever change it. I had some. I had some pretty, like a wacko names before.
What is it? What is it?
I made this one stick. Um, I don't know this. My friends just started calling me like Hodgins, but not in like I rail, but like online himself. So I guess it just stuck. I just haven't found the name that I liked, you know?
Yeah. I mean, I think this one sticks. And so, um, this is so this podcast gets shared with a lot of the IRA audience. You know, uh, you wouldn't mind breaking down. Like, what is? What does that mean? I wasn't sand for Hodgins? No. No, Ira.
Oh, I, uh, in real life, like, please.
Yeah, because this podcast gets shared with a bunch of people who aren't part of the gaming community as well. Yeah, And so I find it my personal mission to integrate gamer and twitch chat language into real life, you know? Yeah. Um, I had to describe to an attorney one of our attorneys. What? The word Geet meant, You know, like you did No idea what that meant.
There's so much Lingle out there, though.
Yeah, yeah, but it's great when it starts to blend together. That's how you know we're getting somewhere. You know what I mean? Yeah. No. Awesome in Awesome. Um, you know, So you said your twist. Rumor. Um, you know, when it comes to when it comes to the end goal of content creation into its dreaming, you know? What is that? What is that? Go for you. What got you started. And what's that? Go for
you. Um, the main thing that I've started is I would wanna build, like a community that could, like, talk to, you know, talk stories. We're just having a good time with everyone.
Iceman. Nice. Oh, yeah. Dude, that's Ah, that's cool. Is there any, like? So you're So you're doing this for twist? Is there any place that you wanna besides creating the community? Where is it that you want to take that community? What is it that you want to? Is there any kind of, like, underlying mission behind that,
Like angle? You see, I would say my angle is I want to be a really, like, good f yes. Player on. I wanna be able to, like, teach people. How do you know? Play the game, get good. All that stuff if they need, like a teacher, you know?
Yeah. I mean, you've been making waves in, like, the apex community, you know? Now, Valerie it like my home. He just dropped a 50 kill bomb yesterday, and it are hopped in the back back. Like you. You think about going pro,
you know? I mean, if it comes my way, then it will be, you know. Mmm. I'm just going out
there on Twitter. Your friend Tony. That's all I'm saying. I think we're gonna get to the root of it. Here. Let's see. You will see. No, that's cool, man. No, it's Ah, It's what was so like, what was the game that got you, like, hooked? Like, what was the first time I got you hooked?
Um, like, competitively, I would say Connor straight Global. But before that, I used to place other Effie Escape is called Crossfire. But it's more like a kiddie game, I guess. But then once I got into CS, go, um I realized how, like, competitive it is on me. The grind really doesn't stop. Like you can literally be like the best. After that, I just got hooked. I just grinded about 4000 hours C s Cho, and I just never let go
like me and Halo. Man, I'm really glad they, you know, I grew up in able to when they didn't track the amount of hours that you put into a game. Yeah. Thing around the same about you know, I That's awesome. And so you've been primarily mouse and keyboard your whole life?
Yep. Never had Xbox. Never had fears for. I mean, I had a week, but there's Ah,
yeah. What was your Let me ask you. What was your first game in council? What was your first
ever aiming consul? I would see probably a GameBoy advance First game was like Tony Hawk or something like that.
Mmm, Yeah, those were Ah, those were great men. Um, I had the i had the game would color game work. It was literally right before that.
Dang. Yeah. Those Sorry, though,
you know, actually, the first us I take that back. The 1st 1 I had was the super Nintendo. Um, that was my very 1st 1 some classics, man. Some classic six pro. Yep. Um, yeah. I'll say because, you know, Pokemon was like one of my things back in the day. But I'll tell you what really got me was Ah, halo like that. Just like that Should just man When I once I literally five minutes in the campaign and said, This is this is it, bro? Like I couldn't even hold the damn controlling. Yeah, man. No, it's constructed. Ah, it's because I think that, like, you know, we start with these root games and like that, that kind of evolves. That skill translates into something, and I think that's like I think such a cool thing, like with I know with Halo like that translates into a lot of other games, like some of the basic movement, basic skill sets like, you know, is that what you think makes you, I guess, like, you know, even though the game's only been out for a couple weeks, is that what you kind of credit to your success and balance? So far?
I feel like, Yeah, I mean, having mouse and keyboard for eight plus years, you know, not touching controller. I do feel like I benefit from it, especially like how Valerie is right now. It's more of a C S. Cho and Overwatch combined. Yeah, So I do have, like, I guess, the upper hand compared to other people that just started.
Yeah. I mean, speaking of Valent, let's hop on that topic. Do you? I know it's I'm obsessed with that. I know you are, too, like you. You see it? It's been it's been we live in such a canceled, You know, um, cancel culture, you know, into what it's like. Everything gets hot for one minute, and then it becomes irrelevant the next moment. Do you see this sneaking around?
Ah, yeah, for sure. On sea like Valiant. Like I said, it's easily like C. S Cho. And we have the two like top FBs Game's over. Watch and see a school and that just combined together. I feel like a lot of people will stick around
awesome in Yeah, because So when it comes to when it comes to counter strike, though, do you think any controversy is using any pro players will hop on or switch?
Ah, I see. Yeah, I've seen some Ah pro player has been playing it, but they say, like the compared to see us go The recoil patterns are different, so it's gonna be hard to get used to. But I feel like that's like every game, you know, you gotta get used to it.
Yeah, 100% because it's that's That's the last one, like counterstrike like C s Cho. I mean, that's not even the most recent Correct me if I'm wrong. That's not even the most recent counter strike. Is it?
Uh, I think it is. Actually, I think that's the last one.
How old is that game? Oh,
I think it's maybe six years. I think.
Crazy. Still playing to do. It's insane. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. We ah, we over here. Hey, lower struggling man Spits bit about six years. Van. It's ah, it's It's tough to, um, we're ready for infinite man. So is it you know me, ask you something that I've always something that I've always done. I typically, when I find games, I grind, I don't I'm not one of those variety streamers or variety players. Like I find these like games. And I just like, you know, like about it drives crying to shit out of him for, like, a good 6 to 8 months. Then I switched something else. Then I go back. Do you know what's kind of year? What's kind of your pattern? Do you just play one game at a time? Do you switch between multiple games? How do you balance that?
Well, for me, I'm usually an FBS player, so I play a lot of shooters, so I do juggle between games if, like I get tilted. I say I would jump onto, like, a fun game or something like that. You know, teams apiece.
Got it. Do you think Do you think doing, um do you think people who play multiple F P s games at the same time You think that diminishes their skill in each of them?
Um, no. I feel like if you play multiple FBs games, there's different. Like rolls you can learn. I mean, they they still have the same concept, like, same goal, I would say, but yeah. Then I feel like they don't like, um hey, I lost Jana. Track was it was Yeah,
yes. Oh, it's like, Does it does it trance like, Does it translate from one game to another date? Or does it playing multiple F B f F P s games Diminish your skill in each of them?
Oh, no. Yeah. So, like I said, I feel like if the more f yes games you play, the more you learn from different things.
So you say it's more translatable versus diminishing. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. That's interesting. I like because I've never I've never thought like that. Um, up until ah called dirty war zone. Um, I got hooked on that game, and, you know, I'm a controller player. Like, that's what I grew up on. You know, Halo, your gears of war. Um, and I mean, still called duty, But I think that there's certain games that play better on controller and play better on PC on without a doubt. But I was so fearful that, like, you know, that I'm playing now. I'm just grand grinding, called a war zone for all this time. Um, what's gonna happen when I pick up the sticks and try to play Halo again? Um, and it actually like, I honestly want to say it made me better. You know, um, I can't really explain it.
Yeah, I feel like when you play F p s games, you're more open minded to like different things because, um, you play different stuff. You do learn multiple like outselling tactics are like mindset towards different games.
Absolutely. It's I feel like I've been living under a rock until this past year. Man like that because like I was So what? Especially when I started my stream in Korea. I was like Onley halo on Lee called duty on Lee. Gears of War. I can't play anything else. It's got to be sweaty all the time. Like it like there was no chill. There was no fun game for me, man. Like there is none.
A song is you open up.
Yeah, because I think there was I had that fear that, you know, if I play another game, I'm gonna lose the skill in this other game, you know? And it's like, there's that, like, weird thing that like, Oh, wow, this is gonna be different controls. Like I'm not gonna be able to do it like I don't know. It's just this I went down the rabbit hole, man. It was Just isn't saying
I feel like it's just, um it's all muscle memory. Like one to you. Stick around and play this game for long enough and you don't touch it and you come back. You just have to play like I would say, a couple of games and you should be, like, fired up again.
Yeah, Yeah. And yeah, and it's funny because I gets taken. Me, I don't know, 15 years to figure that out. Um, you know, my my guilty pleasures lately have been, You know, I've been buying. I bought the Pokemon game and I bought Animal Crossing man because it's like because it's like I get So I get to chill and relax and build my own island and, you know, go out, please. Yeah. Um, it's it's difficult, in its own sense. But, you know, there's elements to that that help you like. You gotta, like, learn how to barter trade by cell. You know, you there is some thought that goes into it, but it's not like the same type of light, you know, sweaty grind, the you know? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, man, I know. It's Ah, this stuff means so something that I like to touch on. Um, And I've asked a couple of the different guest on the show is when it comes to your like, when it comes to family life. Do they support your decision to create content? They just kind of support you. What you do or is that Is that a struggle?
No, I get like, I have full support. I mean, for me and my family, it's like as long as I'm happy, like we're all happy, you know? Yeah.
No, it's cool matter, huh? That's cool. That's really cool, cause, like, cause I you know, we definitely live in a different time because back when, um, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm just turned 28. And so it's like, back when I started playing online, it was a different vibe. You know, It was like, now we were still having the conversations of, like, we don't want to talk to strangers on the Internet kind of thing.
you know what I mean. Um and so it was like I never even thought about asking my mother to go play in the tournament and doused with a bunch of strangers playing video games that I met on the Internet. You know what I mean?
Well, this sketch,
it was, you know, to them they like because, you know, I'm, like, my like, you know, this is a great opportunity, but I never even asked him because I knew what the answer is gonna be. You know, um, that's awesome, man, because ah, lot of people in the stream and community don't have that. You know, it's they still fight that same very similar battle to the same parenting You know what I mean? Yeah. And yeah, that's awesome. And do you do you just love it currently at home? Are you on
your own? I live at home.
Awesome, man. That's that's the dream. Just everything you get to make you get to say, even you getto
I feel like you just need I mean, for me. You just got ah, you know, do your shit goto work their bills. And whatever you have in your free time, you can do what you want, you know?
Yeah. I think you touched on a really good topic. There is, like, especially as a kid. Like, I didn't really know how to communicate that, um, I wasn't really at the maturity level toe be able to comprehend that because, you know, to me that there was no real opportunity. I was just grinding just to grind. I was just having a good time with the homies, you know? I mean, uh, there was no real career out of it. So, a school that you do that so I if you could give, you know, for someone who's in a very you know who's in your position, your age group. Um you know, if they struggle with something like that, what was what would one piece of advice you give them?
Mmm. I would say all this honesty. If you have the time, I would say, just grind. If you grind, you can get good because there's no limit to how good you can be. And if you do get to that certain point like, you can go somewhere, you know? How
do you communicate that to the family, though? Yeah. I
mean, I feel like something like that is just you have to show them, you know, it's just something you can just tell them you got actually, show them that ain't gonna be successful.
That's a good point, men. That's ah, solid cause, you know, even at 25 when I started, you know, my until I got my first twitch paycheck, my family was completely against it. You know, um, because I had actually sold my Xbox set up because, you know, I was playing too much, and then they were happy. And then I not only did I buy another xbox, but when bought, like, a $3000 gaming computer, and they're like, Fuck you doing Yeah. You know, um, solid man, Um, solid. Because I think there's EA Sports is such a big thing. Now it's become like we're starting to see it. We're starting to see it really materialize in the US, it's been Ah, it's been prevalent, you know, in Asia, you know, and all these other countries for a long time. I know just that's the first thing that came to mind. But they've been selling out 30,000 crowd stadiums for dodo and legal legends and all these other games for years. You know, um, it's becoming a thing where, you know, um, like, I think one day it's gonna be like a main stage competitor with, you know, the MBA, the NFL, you know? Sure. You have the same belief.
Yeah. Now, like, the eastward scene is so big right now, but, um, you know, like iro people, the kind of still look down to a like as not a career, but eventually it's gonna get there. It's honestly, already that big.
Yeah. 1% agreed to um do you Do you talk about this in your free time? Like what you do on twist? Do you talk about that like, you know, at your job. Like, you know, with your friends with the homies. Like, Is that is that something that you're very vocal about?
About competing about concentration. About what you're doing over here on twitch?
Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, half of my friends are, like, you know, the stream. Do you know what I do? And most of my friends, Day of Parsley. Know what I do? Well, yeah, we do talk about it. You know how to make it better grind. You know, there's Central.
Yeah. I mean, so, you know, because I've been seeing you grind a lot Like how? How many hours a week do you put in? Oh,
well, right now, like before. This whole Colvin 19 thing. I mean, I did work like, five days a week, so But I didn't stop me from, like, non grinding, solid work. 70. I mean, seven hours a day. And then I would say I ashamed for, like, eight hours after and, you know, have that little sleep so you can always grind. Dude,
my man, I love it. I love it. That's that's relentless. Hustle, man. What do you do for if you don't mind me asking what you do for your day job,
I actually work at a restaurant. Yeah, Yeah. I don't know if he has no Manipur czar, but it's mostly like a Hawaiian thing. Take a steam bread with char SIU pork in the middle.
She better figure out a way to d m that over to me. Man. That sounds incredible, man. How long you been doing that for?
Oh, I would say about two years now, I think. Yeah. Two years.
That's cool, man. A school with, um it's cool. It's cool to hear you talk about that, cause, like, you know, I feel like I missed out on kind of like being in the sports competitors. Um, I never liked shot my shot, you know, the same time. So I'm always trying to, like, relive some of that. Um and, you know, I want to build my own EA sports team. One of, you know, kind like dick around in competitions. And you're just gonna get my name out there. So it's it's cool to see that you're doing things like that, You know, um and so where do you stand with, you know, So now, like I know you got into Apex in the very beginning. Um, you know, now you're now you're grinding. Valerie, do you ever see yourself going back to Apex? Do you ever see What does that look like for human?
Um, as far as I know, I haven't touched Apex in, like, two weeks. I've been playing Tark off. You know, dude, Apex has been sold tilting for me, So I had to take a break. But then I got hooked on Tark Aww. And then as soon as Valerie came out, I just started smashing the
man. What is it? So about Apex, You don't want to touch on that for a little bit. What is it about Apex that drove you away from it beside the size dollar?
The main thing for me Towards the end of the grind for season four, I just kept running into, like, so many hackers. Unlike I just got so sick of it, I don't know. And I felt like I couldn't climb anymore, so I just plateau, I say I can't need a break. And then eventually it did lead to the tar cough and Valerie thing
got him in? Yeah, because you know, I mean, it's It's obviously value. It's a huge hit, you know? And it sze I don't I don't really see it's slowing down But, you know, I've heard the lawn apex community, and every time I've tried to play like I mean, I just I sucks. It doesn't really bother me, you know? Like it's I
mean, Apex is still a good game. I'm not gonna lie. It's still one of my favorite games by far. But just right now I can't play it.
You ever think they're gonna improve that? I mean, because it's everything there gonna prove digital cheating system on
there. I feel like so many like pros already, like trying to hint on, you know, upping their stuff. But so far they haven't made any moves. I feel like that's why they're Sena's Loki, like, declining. I
got it. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of competition. Um, there's a lot of competition. Um, Kuhlmann, um wanna want to wrap this up a little bit here, Um, you know, kind of like, kindly finish this off, but, um, you know, if you had someone to so say someone is I think we kind of, like answers a little bit earlier. Um, say someone's wanting to get into the sports scene, you know? Where do they start? How did they get noticed? You know, where do they network? You know what his network he gave you mean? You know, um, kind of tell us a little bit about give a little bit of ice for a little bit experience about how you did
it so far. Ah, so far for me, I would say, Like I said, you have to put the time in grind, you know, get some clips, post him up wherever you can. Ah, if you like some tweets people you like to stick around and they can host the raid you make, make some friends, you know?
Yeah. I mean, so you know, when it comes to when it comes to networking, you don't wanna touch on that. Just one more, because there's networking is, you know, obvious often. Like misconstrued is like, you know, support for support. Um, what is your What is your definition of networking?
Networking for me is well for me. I don't do like that. Follow follow, you know. So for me, I would say you want to build that friendship and not for like, for follows follows. But you want people to comment, talk to you in your stream and not just leave you lurk. You just want to build that family basting,
and I notice that wrap up. But I kind of went on a rebel. How did so How do you build the engagement on their You know what? What stops people from what's know what prevents people from chatting? And how do you keep chatting?
Um, well, for me, you just want to keep the conversation going, you know, ask how their day is if you like. If you have the same similarities in two games, you know, talk about the game, keep the train going. No, no, that's That's it for me. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, do you ever find that it's like, really difficult to balance the conversation and balance a high level of game play at the same time?
Oh, yeah, for sure. Like theirs. I feel like there's two different types of conversations I could go on is like, you know, goofy like just chill and talking. And if you want to learn the game type of vibes. Like there's also that one, too. This is just different stuff.
Cool. Yeah. Is that that's something that that's something I always struggle with men. Part of that was a selfish question, Goldman. So again, thanks for thanks for coming on. Um, you know, I know. This is kind of like, you know, it's like, super last minute, Chachi, D M. Thanks for being so open and open to do this.
Ever see any time? Thanks for having me on the show. I was nervous as hell,
bro. So, you know, in for full transparency the podcast nose, like this is my third guest that I've had on here. So it's like, you know, trust me, that the nerves, the restlessness, the e I mean, the audience will be able to see what you can see. The little bit of the glisten right here. You know,
like Syrian over there,
man. Uh, the nerves on both sides, then we're all human here. Yeah. Yeah, I do. So again, Thanks so much, man. I really appreciate that. Um, last little parting words Like where? You know, where do we find you? Um, where you most active
of I'm usually more social on Twitter on da twitch. He can find me at twist out G for wait. Talk about DJ. What? They're two shot G force as Hodgins G
awesome and cool. I'm gonna post that in the in the, um, podcast description. So that way, people in this to acquit copy and paste Same thing on Twitter.
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Cool, man. Awesome, bro. They do have a girl in
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